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Post by leckie on Jul 13, 2012 20:18:51 GMT
If you are worrying about how to keep your furled line floating, the battle is already lost. The line should be in the air, not in the water. On most of the rivers I fish they are pretty tree lined so I fish pure tenkara where I can with the line off the water...this applies to about 50% of my fishing time...the other 50% I have to use side and bow and arrow casts which precludes keeping the furled line off the water tight lines Alex
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Post by paul1966 on Aug 14, 2012 18:35:35 GMT
I have to say since this brief discussion on level and furled lines back in July. I have been practicing with level lines quite a bit as I felt I may be missing something.
I have now become a bit of a convert to the level line, Mr Stewart was dead right it's all on the a high stop. I think the problem was in my western style of casting I use a fast short haul if anyone has seen Lefty cast I try to emulate him. Obviously you can't haul a T rod.
As Mr Stewart says with practice you can learn to cast the level line, I'm glad I persevered.
I still like my furled leaders and these would probably be my first choice but I can now see the advantage of the level line other than cost & simplicity .
However I think the furled line is definitely the way to go for the beginner and then progress to level line as well.
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Post by custheyder on Aug 14, 2012 22:18:23 GMT
Rod's furle's are indeed excellent... Hence I'm stocking them. I'm only going as far as 12ft at the moment but I can have them made to any length you like if you don't mind a day or two waiting for Rod to make them for me. What are the favourite lengths?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 16:22:36 GMT
I have received my first furled line from Custom Furles and am very impressed. The whole concept of applying floatant to the line is baffling, it even comes in CF's advice. With both a level line and a furled line I keep both off the water allowing only my 2lb tippet and the fly to get wet ! I have had more success in river fishing with my Esoteric / level line combo than ever before with conventional tackle. I have learned more about single fly presentation than i ever would with my reservoir kit. I use 5.4 and 6 metre combined length lines, i know this may be regarded as long but it works ..... I use 20lb mono as a level line with 2lb tippet. My new furled line is low vis green and 4 metres long. No floatant ... fish Tenkara style...
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Post by Simon on Aug 15, 2012 17:31:11 GMT
You still need to apply floatant to the furled leader, as it is thread and will absorb water making the line heavy.
Simon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 19:47:42 GMT
So a furled line made of a non absorbent thread would be a good idea ? How come no one's thought of that ? Or would that just be fly line backing ..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 14:40:13 GMT
I made a couple of Monofilament Furled leaders today, I'll probably test them out next time I'm on the water to compare them to the silk one's I have on order. They're dead simple to make and I'm hoping they'll cast nicely. DIY Furled Leader: Anyone on the forum with experience of mono furles for tenkara please chime in
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Post by leckie on Aug 16, 2012 19:59:01 GMT
thetroutfly,
It'll be interesting to see how you get on with them....they look the part....did you use a frame to make them, or just purely by hand?
Alex
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 20:21:48 GMT
Hey Alex,
I don't have a jig set up, these were made simply by twisting the mono through my fingers, it's pretty easy to do but if you're using long lengths of mono the tag ends tend to twist up and it can be a pain.
The longest piece of mono I've furled this was is about 30' and was used to make a length of 4 ply around 7'. I'm probably going to experiment with furled level lines next which might sound a little strange but I'm hoping it'll prove worthwhile.
To make a 4 ply level furl of about 10' - 12' I'll probably need around 40' - 50' of mono, it should be interesting and I'll no doubt be blogging my results.
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Post by leckie on Aug 16, 2012 20:28:52 GMT
thetroutfly, Well good luck on your little project there....it will be a good feeling when you catch a wbt of a furled line you made yourself and a fly you tied with your own fair hand....what could be better ...don't tell me that your thinking of building your own tenkara rod ;D tight lines Alex
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 20:42:07 GMT
making a tenkara rod...now there's something to ponder
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 12:09:55 GMT
So, I've just finished a couple of furled level lines. I'm hoping to get out tomorrow for an hour or two and test all the mono furled leaders I've made over the last couple of days. The level leader has a hi-vis braid at the tippet end that'll act as an indicator, if this works well I'll probably add it to the tapered leaders too. Monofilament Furled Level Line:
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Post by paul1966 on Aug 17, 2012 13:05:19 GMT
Hello thetroutfly i make furled leaders from fluoro 4lb and use them to turn over a 6ft level line. I was using hi viz fluoro for the level line but have found 8 to 10lb mono is more delicate. It's easier to cast than a full level line and the drag back on the dry seems as good as a level line.
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Post by custheyder on Aug 17, 2012 13:20:40 GMT
I have some very light #1.5 and #2 hi-vis orange level line that would be perfect at the end of these designs. I know they have been used to tie up tapered leaders before.
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Post by paul1966 on Aug 17, 2012 14:21:33 GMT
That would be perfect, I'll add some to my order when the new rod arrives
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