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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 9:42:02 GMT
Hi, Where in the UK can you obtain Tenkara furled lines and which would be recommended. Thanks in anticipation Gary
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Post by orangeotter on May 18, 2012 9:49:36 GMT
Hi Gary, and welcome to the clan.
Check out Custom Furles site, all your heart could desire.....
Tight lines,
Louis
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 11:01:59 GMT
Hi louis, Many thanks, rod arrived this morning, hoping to christen it on Monday. Will check out Custom Furles. thanks Gary
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Post by custheyder on May 18, 2012 12:22:18 GMT
They are great products. I use one!
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Post by leckie on May 18, 2012 19:48:43 GMT
Gary, Welcome to the forum...by the way what rod did you go for....I'm guessing the 12' Iwana I have the 12' Iwana and the Yamame...they're both great rods. Look forward to your reports and photos of your fishing experiences if you can manage that tight lines Alex
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 14:39:13 GMT
Hi Alex, Thanks for the welcome, yep went for the 12' Iwana. Hoping to venture out Monday on the Dove, will be using 3.5 Level Line but beginning to think should have gone for the heavier 4.5 version (since ordered some so will be able to make comparison). Cheers Gary
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 19:12:28 GMT
Hi Does anyone use floatant on their furled Lines, as I noticed that my traditional line had a tendency to sink in the flow when fishing the Dry. Cheers Gary
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Post by leckie on May 22, 2012 19:46:33 GMT
Gary, I always apply mucilin to my furled leader every outing, otherwise like you say...it will sink tight lines Alex
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Post by orangeotter on May 23, 2012 8:22:48 GMT
Likewise, I apply floatant for when I'm at full stretch - otherwise I try to play the traditional game of keeping the leader off the water. I'm sure you'll agree this is so much better.
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Post by paul1966 on Jul 12, 2012 19:38:27 GMT
I'm still on a bit of a learning curve, but what is the advantage of a level line over a furled leader? Apart from cost and simplicity. I don't seem to get on with level lines, I find them a pig to cast.
I have settled on a system of a 7 to 8ft furled leader with 4 ft of level line attached to the end down to a couple of feet of 8lb mono to which I attach my tippet. This is a breeze to cast and presentation is great. I suppose it's a hybrid system. What do the rest of you use?
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Post by leckie on Jul 12, 2012 19:54:26 GMT
Paul, I'm going to try out a few hybrid combinations like you are using because I've got numerous furled leaders from 3' to 7' from my western style fishing days that are now a thing of the past for me. Currently I tend to fish with a 10'6" furled leader which is easier to cast and is good for light dry fly work. Jason Klass's blog from Tenkara USA gives a good summary of the main differences between the two methods... www.tenkarausa.com/blog/?p=2621#more-2621tight lines Alex
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Post by paul1966 on Jul 12, 2012 20:46:57 GMT
Thanks for that Alex that seems to back up what I already thought. I think with a hybrid system I have the best of both worlds. I have the versatility to quickly change the length of my leader by adding a longer or shorter length of hi viz to the end of the furl. Like you I have a lot of 6 to 7ft furled leaders. I do have a couple of 10 1/2ft leaders but a find the hybrid system suits me better.
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Post by cm_stewart on Jul 13, 2012 2:04:28 GMT
I'm still on a bit of a learning curve, but what is the advantage of a level line over a furled leader? Apart from cost and simplicity. I don't seem to get on with level lines, I find them a pig to cast. The main advantage of a level line is neither cost nor simplicity, but light weight. Furled lines are almost universally heavier, which makes them easier to cast but harder to keep off the water. Keeping the line off the water is the essence of tenkara - eliminating drag for improved presentations. If you are worrying about how to keep your furled line floating, the battle is already lost. The line should be in the air, not in the water. With practice, you can learn to cast a level line. In time your casting will get better, your furled line will not get any lighter no matter how much time you give it. If you are having a problem casting a level line, it is almost certainly caused by one of two things (and often both together). You are probably extending your forward cast too far so that the rod tip is too low. You probably also do not have a hard stop to your forward cast. It is a lot like trying to flick something off your fingertip. The hard stop is the key. The forward cast should accelerate into a hard stop with the rod tip no lower than 10 o'clock or better yet, 10:30. (If you extend to 10, raise the rod tip to 10:30 as the line is rolling over, it will help tremendously.)
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Post by paul1966 on Jul 13, 2012 3:18:49 GMT
Thanks cm-stewart, that's pretty much the technique I use to cast a level line they do go out, I just don't like all the effort I have to put in. I like the feel of casting furled leaders although I do find a 10 6' leader too heavy that's why I opt for my hybrid system. I do live in a coastal area therefore it always seems to be windy here, I think that's part of the problem.
I like to think of myself as a half decent caster with the western gear, I was quite fanatical about getting my technique right. I spent a lot of time studying how the great casters do it eg Mel Krieger, Joan Wulff and Lefty.
Maybe I'll persevere a bit more with the level line and see if I can get to like it.
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Post by phil on Jul 13, 2012 8:54:52 GMT
I've used different lengths of level line and two tenkara furled lines, one from TenkaraUSA 10'6" and the other made by Rod Dibble 13' in length. I certainly take Mr Stewarts point that the line, be it level or furled, needs to remain out of the water to gain the quality of presentation that Tenkara offers the fly fisher.
I do find that I prefer furled lines and as many British fly anglers will know Rod Dibble furled lines come with a hefty reputation for their excellent turn over and construction. I can only testify to the superb presentation of the Dibble line, well worth a look and try.
I have found getting to grips with the tenkara casting stroke perhaps more difficult than I first expected, less power and as Mr Stewart reminds us a defined stop no lower than the 10 O'clock position is vital to its success for me.
Tight lines folks.
Phil
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