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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 11, 2015 19:08:31 GMT
Good evening all
Ive been fishing tenkara with western style flies ie gold heads klinks etc but I would like to go down the traditional route and use traditional kebari flies
Can anyone give me some good ideas for patterns to get me going?
Many thanks
Jonathan
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Post by Paul G on Feb 11, 2015 21:43:08 GMT
It would be extremely remiss of me to not suggest the following as a solid basis (interest declared of course) but genuinely stand by both the patterns (hugely effective) and their tying/rationale for use. These are all tried and tested patterns over years of use (and had to justify their place in anglers' boxes by being effective)- and are definitely not just things that people have knocked up in the vice because they thought they looked cute. Available to order very soon - watch this space. Paul
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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 11, 2015 22:27:02 GMT
Hi Paul
I got volume 1 on blu ray from the fly fair at the weekend its a very good watch. I didnt want to overload with both volumes at once so ill keep an eye out for volume 2.
When you did the streamside tie in volume 1 what influenced you to tie that pattern? Knowledge of the watercourse your fishing or is it your go to pattern?
Jonathan
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Post by Paul G on Feb 11, 2015 23:19:53 GMT
Just based on the conditions on the day I was confident that it would do the business. It wasn't so much the "pattern" - more the collection of functional features (and size) that it incorporated.
As an example of one feature - the soft, mobile hackle fished roughly dead-drift interacted well with the slow water in that particular pool and I didn't need a stiff hackle that I might choose to pick up/oppose another kind of current.
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Post by daves on Feb 12, 2015 17:14:40 GMT
PG & JPs' video on Kebaris is excellent (I bought a copy at the BFFI).
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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 12, 2015 20:45:53 GMT
Anyone got any suggestions that doesnt involve a plug to buy something?
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Post by sk3rn on Feb 12, 2015 20:56:06 GMT
Tenkara USA have a lot of videos to view. The Ishigaki is quite simple as even I have managed to knock a few out.
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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 12, 2015 20:56:49 GMT
Tenkara USA have a lot of videos to view. The Ishigaki is quite simple as even I have managed to knock a few out. Thank you i will take a look
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Post by Paul G on Feb 12, 2015 21:48:41 GMT
Anyone got any suggestions that doesnt involve a plug to buy something? Meow! There's tons of free stuff on our site and we happily give advice on here/online generally. Videos on tenkara currently make a loss in the West so it is a bit rich to begrudge partial recouping of costs in order to pass on authentic info
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Post by Paul G on Feb 12, 2015 22:15:55 GMT
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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 12, 2015 22:36:36 GMT
Anyone got any suggestions that doesnt involve a plug to buy something? Meow! There's tons of free stuff on our site and we happily give advice on here/online generally. Videos on tenkara currently make a loss in the West so it is a bit rich to begrudge partial recouping of costs in order to pass on authentic info Paul lets not fall out on this forum Tongue in cheek Ill but the volume brand new not second hand Jonathan
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Post by springerman on Feb 13, 2015 9:14:46 GMT
Jonathan, There is plenty of free stuff as Paul rightly suggests. Tap in "Kebari flies" on the web. So many web sites to chose from. Also "Mr Katsutoshi Amano tenkara fly-tying on You Tube". All good stuff. Keep you going for a while. If you want a good dry fly have a look at the Mole Fly on this forum. Good tying.
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Post by jonathan27 on Feb 13, 2015 12:53:40 GMT
Thank you
My issue I find with tenkara flies is where to start. With my conventional fishing I will either match the hatch with dries or search the water with weighted nymphs which through experience have narrowed down to a handfull of pattterns which will either attract or replicate.
With a traditional tenkara fly I have lead myself to believe (and im sure well respected minds on here will confirm or debate) that a traditional tenkara pattern is to act as a trigger or stimulant to catch the fish by ticking the stimuli boxes to a feeding fish without being too specific?
Jonathan
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Post by phil on Feb 13, 2015 15:19:03 GMT
So much to go at Jonathan. I think that kind of sums up the attraction of the One Fly ethos. As has been said many times, the apparant simplicity and limits of a fixed line fly fishing system such as tenkara can direct us perhaps, to the most important element. The water. Paul and JP have explored this in past issues of Total Flyfisher and Eat, Sleep, Fish; as well as other folk on the forum. After fishing with various patterns of kebari I have boiled down my one fly - The Kurobe Kebari illustrated here on Discover Tenkara website or Here on the My Best Streams website. It may not be deemed the most appropriate fly pattern for all the waters I fish but it has done me proud with a couple of outstanding days with fish to hand all on not just one pattern but with just the one fly tied to my tippet at the beginning of the day. A super robust dressing. Experiment, find the pattern or patterns you like and enjoy the journey. I'm not sure if I chose the Kurobe or it chose me but it seems for now at least a happy partnership Happy tenkara Phil
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Post by orangeotter on Feb 14, 2015 12:22:12 GMT
Jonathan, everyone will have their own favourites and they all work. For my part, I catch the vast majority of my fish (in Spring, summer,autumn) on 2 patterns of sakasa kabari, GRHE and a Pheasant Tail, both dressed with hen pheasant hackles. I almost only ever use s14, occasionally s16. The whole ethos of Tenkara revolves around minimum patterns and I swear by these. If it helps, I can make some for you - just send a PM.
Good luck with the search for the perfect pattern...
Louis
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