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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 17:05:43 GMT
Sorry if this has been asked before. Any tips? I've tried putting a mini stop at the last moment but the fly lands a little closer to me than I would like. As the fly is travelling above the tippet until the moment of landing, some sort of stop in the cast is needed to flip it below the tippet at the moment just before it lands is my thinking.
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Post by paul1966 on Jul 3, 2014 5:05:09 GMT
I concentrate on the forming of a nice tight loop I lead with the elbow and a smooth wrist flick. I try to be as economical as I can with the power as too much of an abrupt stop causes the tip to bounce. Basically I try to keep it smooth.
I find it very difficult to describe casting and everyone will have their own idea on what a good cast should be.
My fly does usually always land first.
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Post by cm_stewart on Jul 3, 2014 13:37:35 GMT
A stop in the cast is needed in any event (and with a western rod as well as a tenkara rod). When the line completely turns over the fly is at the end of an essentially straight line (sorry for belaboring the obvious). If the plane of your cast is elevated behind you and angles down toward the water in front of you, the goal is to have the line completely turn over just as that downward sloping straight line intersects with the water's surface. No additional stop or manipulation is necessary. All you have to do is adjust the downward angle. Because the fixed line makes all your casts the same distance, it shouldn't take long to get that angle right.
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Post by paul1966 on Jul 3, 2014 19:18:53 GMT
I thinks it sometimes helps if you can find a language your hand/arm understands to make the stop eg. Flicking water off a paint brush, sticking the point of an axe into a tree, throwing a dart. They all build up to a stop.
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Post by Paul G on Jul 4, 2014 11:33:18 GMT
As well as some drills that help with a good arm position, there is a little animated arrow annotation on some video footage on the Discovering Tenkara Vol. 1 DVD for a trick that helps to achieve a fly-first cast. Difficult to describe in words.
It is worth bearing in mind that the distance away from yourself that the fly lands is critical (which in turn determines the optimal slope for the downward angle of the cast). This depends on how heavy your line is, wind direction/strength, current direction/strength, rod length.
Long story short, if you cast too far (for any given combination of above conditions) you will get drag - casting closer than optimal requires some trickery (and the best solution is to actually move your feet anyway!).
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2014 16:09:56 GMT
Here's a link to an article I wrote with input and images kindly supplied from Masami Sakakibara on the tenkara cast. All the points made above are great. At the end of the day 'practise makes perfect' as they say, little but often, it soon comes together, then the fun begins.  Cheers and happy tenkara Phil |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:57:22 GMT
Excellent understandable replies and link. Many thanks.
Do you think the weight of the fly comes into the equation at all? I rarely use larger than a sixteen because I don't want to lobotomise my streams smaller members.
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Post by phil on Jul 4, 2014 17:25:11 GMT
Hi Size does matter, my preferred one fly pattern is below, in fact it's so fab and big that it requires four videos, this being the last. Enjoy Cheers Phil |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 19:23:38 GMT
Hi Size does matter, my preferred one fly pattern is below, in fact it's so fab and big that it requires four videos, this being the last. Enjoy Cheers Phil Thanks Phil! That's should cast beutifully on the 6:4. You caught much recently? |
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