Tenkara with live bait?

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What do you say? Would it still be Tenkara if I used live bait? Would it be any difference between using a worm and a living caddisfly? What about putting on some artificial bait made of plastic or trout dough on a blank hook. Still Tenkara, or why not?

[phil]

Opening a can of worms with this thread, apologies, couldn't resist.

Check out this forum thread on Tenkara-Fisher about Keiryu fishing though as a start:

www.tenkara-fisher.com/showthread.php?705-Keiryu-in-Japan

Cheers

Phil

[phil]

Here's a different Keiryu thread on Tenkara-Fisher that you might find interesting:

www.tenkara-fisher.com/showthread.php?739-Keiryu-ish-Morning

Cheers

Phil

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If I went to a Tenkara only water with live bait, would they let me fish there? Who's deciding how much of a purist I have to be to fish there?
If you compare to a Flyfishing only water, where fishing with a fly isn't enough but you have to have a reel as well. Is there a stipulation of sort that defines Tenkara as i.e. the use of an artificial fly that looks like an insect?

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I found this thread, it is absolutely related to what I want to discuss here.
uk-tenkara.proboards.com/thread/769/tenkara-method-rod
I know there's no real answers to my questions, I just want your opinions on the subject.

[orangeotter]

I can't answer for Sweden but in the Uk we have to fight off allegations that Tenkara is simply 'pole fishing'. The technique under discussion is in my opinion pole fishing, but without an elastic insert.

This would not be allowable on a 'fly only ' water - it's bait fishing regardless of whether you use a Tenkara rod or rod/reel.

Casting as per Tenkara is impossible so it cannot be compared.

Tenkara uses an imitation of a 'fly'so this rules out live bait.

[cm_stewart]

If you are using bait, I would call it keiryu fishing (or pole fishing), not tenkara - no matter whether you use a tenkara rod, keiryu rod or pole. I would not expect it to be allowed in "tenkara only" waters. Similarly, I would expect keiyu rods (and poles) would be allowed if the anglers fished with flies rather than bait.

I do not agree that casting as per tenkara is impossible, though. I have experimented a bit with keiyru fishing and casting is indeed possible. Clearly, fur and feather stay on a hook better, which I am convinced is one of the primary reasons fly fishing even survived among commercial anglers hundreds of years before it became sport.