Flies Used with the New Zealand Method

[Simon]

These are the flies that we used last week on the upper seven, all supplied by Andrew Cartwright. They all worked very well catching many many fish.

[karel]

Nice flies! What material is the body of flies no. 1 and 3?

[Simon]

Hi karel
The materal used is Chamois leather the type that you dry cars with! when it gets wet it really looks buggy.

[pedros]

Don't believe him.

Flavoured bread paste

[karel]

Interesting choice of body material, lol. had to chuckle. Looks somewhat similar to the fern dubbing some tenkara flies are tied with. Do you have any pix of it being wet by any chance?

[Simon]

will sort some photo's out tomorrow.

[Simon]

These are my first attempts, Sonia used one yesterday on the lower Alyn to great effect, many many grayling including a double hook up on the dry and nymph both over 1lb.

Dry.


Wet

[pedros]

Nice, CDC for the thorax?
Also, did you apply glue before the chamois?

[rabmax]

Yes i recognize these as i found them deadly last season for trout.I had copied them from this post.
www.flyforums.co.uk/fly-tying-step-step/63854-yellow-caddis-pupa.html
I found they worked even better with a couple of turns of black starling for legs. Cheers

[Simon]

Hi Rab
After seeing Andys flies i had a look at the ones on the other forum as well, We have found that they are very effective on stillwaters as well, I wonder is it because the look a but like a maggot?

[rabmax]

I think they take them as a type of caddis grubs.When i was a lad we used to collect caddis grubs from under stones take them out of there cases & fish them in a heavy water.We called them monkey men & boy they are deadly.The shammy grubs look identical to my local monkey men when wet orangy yellowish colour.Something that struck me was when we collected the monkey men they were easy to find early season but scarce in the height of summer.I found the shammy grub deadly for the first few months of the season poor in the height of summer.The starling for legs worked better for me.But i find a bead head PTN with a Cdc collar more deadly than a normal PTN.I will need to try the shammy klink ones. Cheers

[karel]

I was this last Saturday at a fly tying demo at my favorite shop, one of the more known guides and book author Pat Dorsey was "showing off", lol. Anyway, one of the pattern he was tying was an old pattern called the buckskin which is exactly what is shown above. Thin strip of chamois, twisted and wound up the shank & tie off with black thread. He added though a small ginger tail and no collar. Supposedly they are deadly in size 20 on the South Platte.

[Deleted]

Hi there,

Nice flies Simon. I tie my own flies and like using generic patterns suitable in most rivers or streams I fish in eg Pheasant Tail nymph beaded, unbeaded and Parachute Adams