some flies

[dave1972]

a new thread...... dont know if mine are good enough to be the first up as my tying is not the greatest but heres some reverse hackles and a few bugs i tied a few days or so ago.
just started using danvilles 210 denier for my flies as i seem to keep breaking the 6/0 and 8/0 and i dont really get on with it at all.
my hooks are kamasan B100G in 14. this seems to be a good size for my fishing on the aire and all my fish came to patterns tied on 14s last season bar dry flies so thats why i use them.
i did try bigger and smaller patterns but the 14 patterns did the biz.
for the kerabis, i use the danvilles flat nylon,its good for building nice bodies and you can get some nice colours, and the hackle is indian cock cape.
the bugs are the same hooks and i weight them by using medium copper wire wrapped round shank.as for materials, dubbing,yarn,wool,whatever has a buggy looking colour really.
my dries i still buy and i only use two patterns which are para adams in a straight shank and emerger and a black magic emerger which is my terrestrial pattern.these two flies in various sizes have caught me trout ,carp,chub,dace,rudd,grayling and even roach from the local cut in the summer and i havent had a reason to use anything else .....

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Hi. Don't you think the hackle on the kerabis is to thin? I have tied my flies just like you have, probably using less expensive hackle, and after fishing them the hackle is just striped and very thin. I have noticed lately, on pictures of flies at, among others TenkaraBum, that their kerabis tend to have thicker hackle.
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[dave1972]

my hackles arent expensive, £2.60 for a cape with varying feather sizes, but i do understand what you mean. i normally go round 5-6 times with my hackle before tying off which seems to be the norm when ive watched the vids and read the blogs of more experienced tenkara anglers/flytiers but i have noticed from my own trials that if you use a darker coloured hackle it does seem a lot fuller compared to lighter ones.
the hackle i used for those was a barred ginger which was white at the root and a very light brown/ginger colour so they appear to be quite sparse....perhaps ive made a bit of a faux par buying this colour as i tend to just buy a dyed brown, i just fancied something different......like i said i am new to this and have only being doing the tying thing a few months so still learning. i did read somewhere that hackle colour doesnt really matter as its down to the action given to the fly and where its placed.dont quote me on this as i cant remember where ive seen it but it is on a tenkara blog and is wriiten by somebody with more experience.
i have got some other kerabis tied with a darker hackle so i will post some pics of these so as to compare....it could be me and i more than likely have cocked up with colour choice.
thanks for comments though cos all this serves to do is help each other so we can improve and make better choices

[leckie]

Guys,

I was getting a bit confused with the term karabis. It's just a transposition error but the Japanese word for fly is kebari.

dave1972- thanks for posting your kebaris I think the hackle looks okay but I would also tie a few up with less bulkier bodies perhaps simply use the thread for the body as a lot of tyer's seem to do.
But hey who cares...as long as they catch fish which I'm sure your flies will.

leckie

[dave1972]

leckie.
the body is just thread,but im on the hunt for a strong thread round the 6/0-8/0 size of various colours to tie some slimmer bodies a la north country spider style.
i like the reverse hackle idea as im of the view that it does give the fly a look of more movement over the standard way of tying hackles found on more traditional patterns.....any suggestions would be good

[leckie]

I tried to photo some of the flies I tied last week but having problems with the poor image on the photos I took. I'll need to work out the best way of photographing them.

I'll try again....sometime soon.

leckie

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Hi Dave with regards to a good tying thread I have used Uni 8/0 & 6/0 all my fly tying days and have found it adequate a good idea is to wax the thread even though it ia waxed already.
Ian.R

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With regards to hackle why not try the same as used on Spiders, ie Waterhen or Snipe they can give a denser hackle than some othe rtype of capes, I tied some Waterhen Bloas at the end of last season and had good results on them, also I tied Black Spiders using a good hen cape and good results with them, I use hen capes of or all my soft hacked flies.
Ian.R

[custheyder]

They look just fine to me. I've a preference for UTC thread. I've tried the others but UTC is the one I snap the least. Hackle density is interesting. Using snipe the fibres are quite thick so a couple of turns gives quite a dense hackle. Do we have a difference in opinion between north country spider people who say "keep it sparse" and Tentara Kebari who, it seems to me, say "make'em bushy"? Lets not even go into the Stewart style of spider pattern.

It's these differences that make me smile while flytying. I'll get back to the vise as soon as my theatre run is over.

[chriscreeler]

I think Stewart's advice on this, as on many other things, is spot on.

''The spider is made rather more bushy than is adisable at first, as the trout's teeth would otherwise tear it away too fast. After capturing a dozen trout it will be spare enough.''

He didn't call his book ''The Practical Angler'' for nothing.