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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 22:25:12 GMT
Hi gary.
I've been using a five to six foot length of line with a nine foot furled leader.
I tend to fish 3 flies around eighteen inches apart, to be honest the bigger flies can be a bit of a handfull to cast so i tend swing them underarm upstream into the swim. The amount of reach & control you'll have will be far better than a western style rod.
Hope this helps mate, let me know how you get on.
Regards Stevie.
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Post by conor on May 20, 2012 20:56:54 GMT
nice to read the reports from the derwent. i lived near Matlock, Middleton-by-Wirksworth to be exact, for a year and i regret that I never looked into the fishing options in the area.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 18:54:06 GMT
Hi Managed to grab a couple of hours at Willersley Castle on Monday afternoon to give rod its first outing, winkled out 2 Grayling Czech Nymphing (happy days). Went to Wolfscote Dale today on the dry and bagged 2 great brownies. Can't imagine traditional fly fishing techniques ticking the box for me now, wow!!. My first outings have really impressed, the rod coped well, presentation superb, what more can I say. Gary
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Post by leckie on May 22, 2012 19:50:56 GMT
Gary, What an introduction to tenkara fishing...superb...the great thing about tenkara fishing is it's quite easy to master....the basics anyway It would be great if you could take a camera with you and take and post some photos....I would love to see them tight lines Alex
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 20:04:55 GMT
I can remember when I first started fly-fishing (first 30+ fish on the fly were carp oddly enough). All the coarse gear went into the garage to gather cobwebs. For quite a while I wouldn't accept using bait of anything other than a fly rod to fish with.........often to the detriment of my angling success. Then I remembered I quite enjoyed a day's legering, float fishing, trotting, spinning, beach casting or slumming it at night in a bivvy behind a load of high technology waiting to alert me to the bite! I've made a point of doing all these again. No more cobwebs! And now, to add to it all there's Tenkara - which I really do like, much as I did fly-fishing as mentioned above. However, this time I'll remain open to all the other methods available as well. I love the simplicity of Tenkara but like many other forms of fishing, it's a method with limited boundaries. I doubt I'll ever see a carp on the end of my Iwana (suicide springs to mind, although I'm still going to try for a rainbow from a float tube!). ;D What I'm trying to say is, all techniques are valid (whatever "traditional" may be viewed as), and require their own individual skills. They should be called into action to suit the circumstances and limitations as required. ......apart from pole fishing of course, which (in totally unreasonable contradiction to my comments above) is the work of the devil and bores the arse off me!!!
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Post by leckie on May 23, 2012 20:23:34 GMT
whistlekiller,
I agree mostly with what you say...all these other techniques do require a certain amount of skill and they all have there place...the only type of fishing I don't like is ledgering when your not holding the rod....I'd find that boring...in Scotland where it's mostly game fishing...the fishing permit prohibits you from not having the rod in hand....probably because of deep hooking I suspect....I don't know anything about pole fishing apart from it's mostly undertaken in England fishing for dace ;D
tight lines
Alex
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 10:08:08 GMT
29/07/2012
River Derwent. Whatstandwell.
Its been a while since my last outing on the river due to the terrible weather conditions. I pulled up in the Derwent arms hotel & had a short walk down the stretch that i was going to fish this morning. A large smile crossed my face, it was good to be back. All looked well, The river looked quite low & crystal clear. I walked back to the car & started to set up, watching the river for any rising fish...........Nothing?
I took the decision to tie on a team of spiders. A snipe & purple, stewarts spider & a black & peacock. As i enter the water all is not good. The river bed has changed quite alot, normally knee high runs are now waist high. The once soft bottom has been ripped away to bare rock by the floods. A waist high sand bar that i used to wade down has vanished & im left with an river that may aswell be new to me. Where i usually wade for around 200 yards i can only wade 50 or so due to the now deeper river bed.
I fish for around an hour with the spiders & connect with nothing. I put a heavy goldhead onto the point. Nothing...... I change the whole set up to heavier nymphs & fish for another hour... Still nothing. Im confused, frustrated & wondering just how much damage the floods have done to the fish population. I stand looking down stream, thinking what i can try next when a small fish takes a fly from the surface not 20 feet across the river from me. Half a minute later up it comes again. I notice that there are a few sedges hatching, so i remove the nymphs & tie on an elk hair pattern. With the fish still rising i cast the elk pattern above the fish....... No take, I cast again and still no take. I repeat this for half a dozen casts & then notice the furled leader is sinking, i lift the rod & bring in the leader, The elk hair pattern is now skittering some 10 feet below me, Just as im applying the floatant there's a tug on the line? I look down stream & see a small grayling attached to the fly. A fish by default but it will do. I lift the rod up & just as im about to bring it to hand it falls off!! "Not my day" i say to myself. I press on for another hour but the rivers like a ghost town. I tackle down & walk back to the car. A decision is made to return later that evening & see if things have changed & maybe catch a few fish but later that afternoon it starts to rain heavily so that idea was shelved until later in the week.
Regards Stevie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 16:11:19 GMT
Saturday 11th August. Darley Abbey.
A bitter sweet sort of a morning for me on the river.
Im set up on the bank for around 8am The Darley Abbey stretch is a series of weirs that spill over into a lovely & interesting collection of shallow runs that once held a good number of large grayling. I say 'Once held'. Because it has now become popular with bait anglers after its barbel & most of the large grayling that have been caught seem to be knocked on the head & taken home. Same for the trout too.
The sun is casting some lovely colours on the water & i take time to capture a few shots of the river & its weirs for the forum. Its just a pleasure to be here this morning regardless of the fishing. Anyway, Out go a goldhead on the point, a pink shrimp on the middle & a black spider on the top. I cast upstream from the tail of a pool & make my way towards the first of the weirs. I hook into a lovely grayling, (my first in ages) i bring it hand & decide on a photo. I put rod between my legs whilst holding the grayling in my right hand, as i go to take my camera from my chest pack with my left hand, old fumble fingers strikes again, The camera somehow jumps from my hand and plops into the river!! I make grab for it but im standing in knee deep fast running water so its 10 yards down stream in seconds. Good job its a £20 cheapo from tescos & id downloaded all my other pictures onto my laptop. Im now around half a dozen cameras down in a couple of years to the same thing.
I press on and hook into some lovely grayling & a single trout, nothing over 8oz but wonderful to see glinting in the morning sun. Some fish are well up in the water & some are grubbing about on the river bed. Ive caught somewhere in the region of a dozen fish when another Frank Spencer moment takes over me. I run the flies down the edge of a weed patch, the obvious happens & the flies catch & become stuck. Now i could of easily walked to where they were stuck & pulled the leader by hand to free the cast, but for some reason i decided to yank the rod upwards instead!!! CRACK! The 4th section from the tip snaps & leaves me feeling sick. Typical me. A classic idiot move that ive fell for many times before. As for the fishing? its game over, Ive got the 9'-#5 with me but its just not the same. On the whole not a bad morning in terms of fish & when i get a new camera i shall return & post some pictures. As for the T rod. Any ideas please!
Regards Frank Stevie Spencer.
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Post by custheyder on Aug 13, 2012 17:27:48 GMT
Not the best day at all for you in terms of cameras and rods. Great you caught some fish thought.
Drop the manufacturer of the rod a note via their website. There is always something to be done to get you up and fishing again as quickly as possible. Myself (Esoteric Tackle) and Tenkara USA both have warranties to save the day as cheaply as possible.
An idea for the camera ... Are there any attachment points in your chest pack you could clip the camera on a lanyard to?
Cust.
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Post by paul1966 on Aug 14, 2012 4:44:04 GMT
Bad luck Stevie, I've done the same thing myself with fly rods. You know you shouldn't do it but you do, it's the turrets of fly fishing
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Post by leckie on Aug 14, 2012 11:36:09 GMT
stevie,
Bad luck about the camara...I always have it on a lanyard around my neck for the very reason you describe....I lost a wading staff in the WOL this year...it happens to us all....apart from trying to yank the hook free with the T rod...now that's a senior moment if ever there was one ;D
Alex
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 20:28:30 GMT
Thanks for the sympathy Alex, typical scotsman ;D
Just kiddin mate, senior moment alright.
Cust, took your advice & emailed Tenkarausa, I must say what a great after sales service. Because it was the fourth section i'd broken they agreed to send me another rod for $25 plus the shipping, i thought this was excellent service. All credit to them.
And thanks for the nod in the right direction cust.
Stevie.
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Post by custheyder on Aug 14, 2012 22:21:35 GMT
No problem at all Stevie ... I don't mind if you have one of my rods or not. My aim, and that of T.USA, is to keep people fishing. It's all part of the service.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 8:15:51 GMT
Cust.
It was always my aim to have 2 Tenkara rods on the go just in case a situation like i had the other day arose. Tenkara usa made an offer i couldn't refuse. This offer still wont stop me from having one of your rods mate.
To be honest i could kick myself for not taking the offer you had on your T rods earlier in the year.
Stevie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2012 20:06:42 GMT
A little DIY job sleeving the broken section of Ebisu with electrical tape & things aint as good as new but it'll do for a few hours on the river. Im on the water for 6.30am. Everythings looking just right, Gin clear water, perfect height & no wind. Im fishing with a 6' leader, 3 fly cast under an indicator, A self tied size 10 cased caddis, a size 12 cased caddis & a small pink goldhead. The method is up stream, across & then down stream on the hang for a short while before casting back upstream. Takes are very subtle this morning & only a slow stop on the indicator gives any sign of an interested fish. After a few missed takes this greedy fellow is hooked and comes to hand after a little struggle with my home grown cased caddis firmly in its mouth. Im a happy man. The fly is a result of a something stolen from my wife that i thought could pass as good material for the case body. The hook is a TMC grubber style. Size 10 Ive used partridge hackle for the legs. The head is white antron thread. Brown 6.0 thread The body may take some explaining. My wife builds & collects miniature dolls house's & this was a product she got off the internet that is sold as fake soil ? It looks like small pieces of wood dyed dark brown. After i'd tied the fly i applied some varnish to around 2/3rd's of the body & sprinkled it with the fake soil & leave it to dry. I was quite happy with the result & soaked the finished fly in water over night to see if it would all hold together. All was well the following morning so a trial on the river was the next move. Next victim to the caddis. After another couple of small grayling, my first brownie of the morning, nothing subtle here, just a bully of a take & a fish that punched well above his class. Its in lovely condition & butter fat. It comes to hand for shot & then leaps back into the water from my hand. No prize for guessing where the sweet spot is here. A lovely run that is around 2" deep & 20 yards in length. A nice grayling from the "Sweet Spot". A confident take & we've got a clever one, straight into the weed. I wade over & release it from its hideout, but its proper spat the dummy out & has a terrible two's tantram down stream. I let it tire & bring it to hand, Maybe a pound, a good fit fighting fish that gave a very good account of itself. The last fish of the day. Im holding the flies down stream for a touch longer & this seems to work, a few plucks & missed fish then the Ebisu is pulled straight, Im thinking about my DIY repair job holding up when this guy does me favour, it jumps & comes at me, i get it under control & ask it to smile for my new cheapo fuji camera (with lanyard!). I hold it upstream for a few seconds until it swims from fingers. A lovely sight. I fish for another half hour with a few more plucks & lost fish, i'd fish on but the butty trailer on the A6 with its bacon & egg bap is calling me & i call it a morning. Regards Stevie.
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