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Post by chriscreeler on Dec 12, 2013 22:42:51 GMT
I like forward taper tenkara lines and now use them more often than not. They vary from about eleven to seventeen feet in length, and also in weight to suit circumstances and prejudice. But what they have in common is that the heaviest snood is about one fifth of the total length and is centred one third down from the rod tip.
'Well, it's always worked for me.'
Chris.
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Post by custheyder on Dec 13, 2013 9:30:04 GMT
How do you find keeping the line off the water with the weight where it is?
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Post by chriscreeler on Dec 13, 2013 18:33:33 GMT
Like Yvon Chouinard's casting, much of my technique would not, I think bear scrutiny here. I don't try to hold the line out of the water all, or even most of the time. To believe that this is really important, just seems to me, to be making life unnecessarily difficult for yourself. I just hold as much out as seems to suit the moment.
Chris.
p s Does any body know what has happened to 'Leckie'? For a long period he was the mainstay of the forum, but now never posts, and doesn't seem to log in.
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Post by Dyfan on Dec 15, 2013 0:11:53 GMT
Because I have a spool of #3.5 and 3, all I needed was a line in the region of #2.5 to create my own but this is not available. The answer was to dye some Varivas 0x (14lb) Supertippet coated nylon using Veniard Fluoro' green and can you believe that it's a perfect match. The diameter drop was correct so I made a line using 4ft of each weight - a trial on the lawn yesterday suggested that I was on the right path. I fished the Dee today using the new line and I have to say that it cast like a dream, and fished with absolutely minimum sag. There is no doubt in my mind that it's a significant improvement on the level #3 and I intend to carry on using it. Supertippet isn't fluoro' but I can't say that this is a problem. I tried dying fluorocarbon but it wouldn't take at all. The moral of this post is simply to make you aware of my trial and to show what can be done with little effort - you may feel that it's worth a shot. It may be that #4 Yamatoyo would be worth a try, ie, a mix of #4, 3.5 &3 but I really do appreciate the lightness of my trial. I'll be very interested in your comments and findings should you try it. Tried this yesterday and felt this is by far the best line I've cast yet. Great turn over with a light kabari and hardly any sag. This is a personal preference of course, but it almost eliminated 'sag drag' and cast beautifully, even into a strongish wind. I can see that a longer butt section of heavier line would aid turn over even more, however, I would prefer to sacrifice maximum turn over efficiency for minimum sag. As for WF, I honestly think keeping your line off the water makes a difference. especially in heavily fished water with a tippet less than 4', again that's just my opinion and people are clearly still catching with line on the water, so maybe I'm wrong on that.
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Post by daves on Dec 15, 2013 14:02:34 GMT
There is no doubting that the less line there is on the water surface the better the presentation which is why I'm experimenting with super-light 1.5 & 2 weight fluorocarbon lines which I've found to cast as well as the 0.35mm copolymer (just under 3 weight) lines that I've used for the last 3 years.
I'd much rather sacrifice cast ability than presentation.
Dave
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Post by orangeotter on Dec 15, 2013 14:38:35 GMT
my word Dave, those are light lines. What brand are they and are they coloured.
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Post by cm_stewart on Dec 15, 2013 15:19:19 GMT
There is no doubting that the less line there is on the water surface the better the presentation which is why I'm experimenting with super-light 1.5 & 2 weight fluorocarbon lines which I've found to cast as well as the 0.35mm copolymer (just under 3 weight) lines that I've used for the last 3 years. I'd much rather sacrifice cast ability than presentation. Dave Because you fish with a relatively short line, I think you'll find there is very little sacrifice in going to the very light lines.
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Post by daves on Dec 15, 2013 21:21:06 GMT
They were the last of the super light bright orange Sunline that Daniel at Esoteric had available. I bought up all his final stock for Stu Crofts, Steve Donohue & myself. I just wish it was still available.
I'm thinking of getting some clear fluorocarbon of the same diameters (0.205 & 0.235mm diameter) & just using the 1.5 & 2 Sunline for the last couple of feet as an indicator section.
As you note Chris, since I rarely fish with a line more than 12 feet long with an extra 2 to 4 feet of tippet & usually have a l;one plus tippet about the same length as the rod there is little problem casting such light lines as long as it isn't too breezy, then I'll opt for a 3 or even 4 weight line.
For a long time I've been into light lines for my western rod fishing, recently (since learning the Italian Style of casting) often using a AFTM 2 weight rod with 1 weight line & 16' leader plus tippet. I also sometimes fish leader to hand/French leader set ups with both nymphs & dry flies using a 10' 2 weight rod.
Dave
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Post by custheyder on Dec 16, 2013 9:17:48 GMT
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